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I'm neutral on the Kirk/Spock romance issue, but I'm in favour of nerding the heck out. 👍

Lawful Good: Spock x Kirk Chaotic Evil: Dean x Cas No I don’t make the rules, but that’s how it is for on screen canon gay couples on network TV

I made my husband watch this with me. When it was over I asked him what you think..."I know it! I bet Kirk is the bottom"

Am I watching this for the second time already? Yes. Yes I am. Savy, I must say, this is your best work yet.

I'm so glad to know that my homophobic dad's favorite movies to watch with his family, while I was growing up, are actually old man yaoi 🤭🥰

these old gays have consumed my life for years now, so i dropped everything when i saw this in my recommended!!! this will be added to my comfort essays that i watch on repeat, i will cherish this video fr 🥰

I have been a Star Trek fan since I was in utero (c. 1978) and all I can say is “PREACH IT SAVY!” I was raised on ST and now I am a flaming bisexual. Coincidence? Probably. But all the evidence is *right there*. ST has always been queer and always will be.

I love how Star Trek kept (maybe accidentally) creating queer & neurodivergent characters before it was “acceptable” on screen: Spock, Data, Jax

Every time I hear about Shatner being like “when did Star Trek get woke?” Like my dude, my bro, my fella, not only were you there but you chose to look at Lenard Nimoy like that (which is honestly valid I’m a lesbian & if I’d ever been able to meet him I’d look at him like that)

1 - I am mad at JJA but he got us Star Trek Beyond & I love that film 2 - “If Abrams films are canon does that mean all fan fics are canon in alternative time lines?” Yes. If, when you bring in the multiverse where every decision makes a new timeline, yes everything is ‘canon’ lol. (Joke) Bless the housewives who kept Star Trek going every time i think about Star Trek the voice in the back of my head goes ‘we thank the housewives’ lol

My grandpa loves star trek, and i really want to show this to him, it might make his head explode

watching the fight like, “it’s very queer. both in it’s very gay AND very strange” lol

Well, you've convinced this Star Trek fan. I previously felt rather skeptical when shippers made claims about Kirk/Spock as a canon romance, but you make such a compelling case, that I have to admit I can't see a better explanation to explain the story beats. I do admit I did enjoy two of the Abrams Star Trek movies. The one I didn't enjoy was the second one due to awful stunt casting for Khan and honestly I didn't care to have a movie unnecessarily retread The Wrath of Khan. I just thought it was boring. However, I really thoroughly enjoyed the third one and thought it was the best of three. It told a new story and focused more on the characters' dynamics. It was also the movie that Abrams had the least involvement in so that probably is why I liked it so much. I also desperately need this Star Trek Muppet spin off series. It would be the best spin-off EVER!

I somehow watched the Amok Time episode as a kid. When I went back in my 20s to watch the series, I was shocked it was a real episode and not something I dreamed 😅

I have never seen 1 episode of Star Trek and I ATE this up. Great video from one Sav to another ❤

Wait, I'M The Ship's Closet. That's ME. I respect your takes so much, Savy, and that you would use anything from me has truly sent me through the roof. TSC was the very first UA-cam channel I did and it's over a decade old, I can't *believe* you found it. Holy shit, this is awesome. <333

babe, wake up, Savy posted a 2 hour long gay Star Trek video. I’m here despite a splitting migraine this morning and hopefully I can watch it all in one sitting and don’t have to watch half of this later because it came back.

I'm with you so far, but this Muppets-Star Trek example should really have a Pigs in Space reference

I stand corrected from the announcement. This doesn't have the same energy as when I predicted the end of Game of Thrones. This has the same energy as how, to spite all the people implying Agrabah and Neverland are irrelevant to the plot of KH1, I'm not just replaying those games, but analyzing them as deeply as pieces of media as your English teacher wishes you would read a book

Now I need to go read this book to see how aggressively neurotypical it's written, because I'm very aggressively audhd. And I've heard people mention Verity, that they like Colleen Hoover but dnf'ed that book.

Well done, Savy! Excellent analysis! I’m home sick with Covid and this is exactly what I needed.

In terms of the Vulcan word that translates to “lover, brother spouse,” what first came to mind for me was and awkward translation in song of songs where the male speaker refers to the female speaker as his sister, however in the song it’s very clear that it is, if not his lover, his spouse. It leads a lot of novice readers of the Bible to assume that it was incest, but other scholars believed that the term used for Sister was a term of endearment meaning to be close, respected and equal, not just equal in status but equal in body - flash of my flesh, so to say. Had I not heard anything else, I would’ve assumed that it was a nod to this particular discussion about biblical translation. As soon as you said that it meant brother, lover, friend, my knee jerk brain said, “oh, it means flesh of my flesh”.

Came here from Reads with Rachel and I am HERE FOR SPIRK CONTENT

I have a PowerPoint presentation about My Immortal (the Harry Potter fanfic, not the song) (still a work in progress), and I have at least 3 slides on Spirk and the origins of fanfiction in relation to them. So yeah I’m excited for this

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I'm an autistic, bisexual, lifelong Star Trek fan that came out as queer in my thirties, because of decades in fundamentalist Christianity. This essay was so meaningful to me. I love it so much. I cried softly at 1:57 seeing the beauty that you made clear. Thank you.

Well I am certainly convinced by your thesis! But I have a special love that Rodenberry kept making space for people who want to interpret K/S anywhere along purely homosocial, homoromantic, or homosexual dimensions. Is it a uniquely powerful friendship? A love that transcends sexual preference or needs no sexual dynamic? Two dudes who loved to bone down? The answer is yes.

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DEAR UA-cam please push this video out to more people k thanks!

Omg!!!! Nepeta jumpscare!!!!!! (All this talk of canon really has my homestuck brain in overdrive lol)

THANK YOU for being one of the first reviewers that I've seen who acknowledge that Colleen Hoover is an erotica author and her works are meant to be exaggerated fantasy and not representational of the real world.

I see why my dad like this show, but it's so suddle, it's perfect for everyone really. That explains so much.

29:22 I finished The Price of the Phoenix a couple months ago and this sounds about right

No need convincing me, I already agree with you 😆

Brb, going to go write a Muppets x Star Trek crossover fic

Listen i toss into dark into the trash can, as one should. But Beyond is one of the best star Trek movies of them all, and 09 is fun enough with enough ideas I'll work with it. No need to toss the baby out with the bath water

my dad has a huge ST paperback collection, and I honestly do not know whether he'd love or despise your analysis, but it would be a Big Feeling. 🤣

Don't inject homosexuality where it doesn't exist.

Bert & Ernie shirt was a nice touch. This video is so amazing I feel the need to make a comment. 🎉

15:24 But Kermit is real in The Orville, and that is pretty dang good science fiction! Sorry for the tangent, please continue! 😆

So gay.... so good!

I took a class about Japanese pop culture and its entanglement with American pop culture in college. We had a class about yaoi and my professor unironically showed us a Kirk/Spock amv as a historical reference XD

Yes. Yes. A thousand times, yes. 🥹

I was receptive to this idea from the get go, but I really didn't think it was going to go beyond your typical Hollywood queer coding. But all these details go way beyond what I expected! You have 100% convinced me. I love that I've learnt Star Trek has always been the perfect same sex romance we deserve ❤

I LOVE the hat!! 😍

Considering Jessie Gender's contributions to the racist harassment campaign against Shark3ozero (ua-cam.com/video/Mr1AdXdkjUg/v-deo.html&pp=ygUVc2hhcmszb3plcm8gY2FuY2VsbGVk ), I'm not sure she's a good person to recommend.